So what does gender equality mean to you? Like if, if there's listeners out there who are thinking, ok, gender equality, yes, I get that we should all be equal, but like how does it appear in our day to day?
I think day to day, there were a lot of, there are a lot of issues that girls confront that just, you know, if, if the guys don't notice because they don't have to deal with them and so, and so they might kind of perceive themselves as not being misogynistic or not like letting misogyny happen without realizing that it's happening.
So for example, at my high school, there's a lot of issues with girls being catcalled, which is, which is something that a lot of guys just don't have the experience of like having happened to them. So they, they don't even realize that it happens, but it happens every single day to me and my friends and to to girls at Lincoln High.
And you know, I remember at a debate tournament, when I was involved with debate, me and my partner who was also female, were told that, you know, our voices were too high pitched to sound authoritative. Or like, like we knew what we were talking about.
And so it's just little things like that that don't seem harmless, but also wouldn't happen to a guy that are kind of, um, the difference between gender equality and not and, and where we are now.
I think really what gender equality means is making sure everybody and working towards making sure everybody is of the mindset that, that you know, that all genders are equal and that, you know, should be treated with a level of dignity and respect that in the past has only been really afforded to men. So, yeah, that's, that's what I would say.
What would you, what do you do you and your friends do when you're, you were getting catcalled by guys, do you call it out? What's the best way to educate them on, "Hey, that's not cool?"
Well, unfortunately when you get catcalled, the safest thing to do is to keep walking. You know, guys like that, it's really, it's unfortunately not really safe to confront them because you don't know what they're going to do. But I think, the best thing to do, or that I'm, that I'm working to do is to educate the new generation.
And, you know, educate my friends, who are guys. So my work with dream equal and girl up where we, where we go and we talk to young people about gender equality and what it means to treat people, respectfully, I think that is, you know, has a really tangible impact.
I was on a panel for Inspire girls, Lincoln and it was all about gender equality as well. And, one of the things that stood out to me at the end is, it was all women and their daughters, but no brothers, no dads, you know, or very few dads. And so when we're having these conversations about gender equality, you know, that we need to learn to invite to or tell our family or our friends to join us in that conversation so they can hear it from our side.
Yeah. I definitely think that's something that's important and that's been, that's been missing, from a lot of gender equality movements. But, you know, we're working toward like Girl Up is very aware of of that, that lack of male involvement.
And we've had, we've had issues of boys not really wanting to be involved and seeing it as like a girl's movement but the club that me and my friend Kit Graff started, we've had some guys joined, which has been kind of exciting.
I think the fact that guys aren't willing to join gender equality movements is evidence that there's kind of a disparity there if they, if they don't want to do something because they think it's girly or only for girl because ideally it's, you know, this is a movement that needs to involve everybody because gender equality doesn't exist.
If, if all the women in the world believed in equality, there has to be, you know, it has to be everyone.
I agree that that's important. Very true.
So your mom recently was elected Mayor and I was curious from your point of view, like how was that experience and what did it teach you about self confidence and believing in yourself?
Yeah, I mean I, I have a lot of admiration for my mother. She's, she works really, really, hard and she's dedicated to her city and that, that dedication and her perseverance throughout her campaign, you know, when she's getting attack ads and when she was crazy busy and every single second on her calendar was full that she had such, like, she had such perseverance and such a strong resolve to continue and to do what she knew was right and to help in a way that she knew she could be impactful.
That kind of, I would say that strengthened my resolve to do what I was passionate about and to help the people that I wanted to help and I care about.Yeah.
What a great role model.